Draft 2011: Third Day Live Blog

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Cowboys 4th Round pick David Arkin

6:24The Dallas Cowboys finish their draft day by picking Wisconsin offensive lineman Bill Nagy.

The NFL Network, by chance, had Wisconsin head coach Brent Bielema on set when Nagy was picked.  He described his guy as a lineman who missed a season after injuring a foot.  Nagy played a variety of blocking spots for the team — tight end, guard and center.  He’s 300 plus pounds and strong.

Nagy tested well at the Badgers pro day and offers Dallas another interior offensive line developmental option.  Bielema named center as Nagy’s best position.

4:55 — The Dallas Cowboys select FB Shaun Chapas from Georia. Here’s the fullback. The fourth fullback on the board and one the Cowboys clearly preferred to Henry Hynoski. He’s another solid member what appears to be a solid fullback class. It does appear that all the Cowboys picks thus far have a legitimate chance to make the team. Chapas will give Chris Gronkowski a run for his job.


2:56 — The Dallas Cowboys select WR Dwayne Harris, from East Carolina.


Tyron Smith’s pick put Marc Colombo on notice. Demarco Murray’s told Marion Barber time is likely up in Dallas. This pick spells the end of Sam Hurd’s time and maybe Kevin Ogletree’s. Harris is a bigger receiver in the Cowboys’ template — 6’0”, 205 lbs, and is a smooth router runner. He lasted until the 6th because he lacks deep speed, but he’s quick off the line and knows how to get loose in the short zones. He’s shifty with the ball in his hands.

This guy can play early as a slot receiver. He will push to be the next Patrick Crayton.

1:18 — The Dallas Cowboys select CB Josh Thomas, from Buffalo.
Here’s a small-school player brought up in our early draft chats. He was a standout at the East-West Shrine Game. As with any small-school, late-round prospect, he’ll need a lot of coaching, but he appears to have the skill set to stick. He’s a fearless corner who will throw his body around. That’s what you want to see in guys playing press on the line of scrimmage, coming up in run support and on special teams.

1:04 — The Patriots draft TCU OL Marcus Cannon. If there’s a team that can wait for Cannon to recover from his treatment, it’s New England.

12:51 — Stephen Jones has taken Jerry’s trade card away.

12:45 — 4th round winds to a close. Most intriguing late 4th pick? Cleveland selecting Stanford FB Owen Marecic. This has Mike Holmgren’s fingerprints all over it. His club will have a true WCO-style running attack. Marecic and Peyton Hillis is ’70s Miami Dolphins-like. Could these guys be the modern-day Csonka and Kiick?

12:10 — The Eagles just picked K Alex Henry, from Nebraska. Does this put David Akers on the market? If I’m Dallas, I’m all ears. He’s 36 years old, but he’s been 82% or better the last three years and has kicked his entire career in cold, windy Philly. Put him in a dome…

11:40 — The Cowboys pick Missouri State G David Arkin. Well, here’s the mid-round guard. I don’t think it’s the one anybody outside the war room expected. He is in the more athletic lineman mold. He’s a left tackle who will kick inside. ‘As we’ve discussed the past few months in the Bunting draft chats, that’s a good sign. College OTs generally have better feet than the guys who played G at their level and can transition to the NFL’s speed better.

He’s in the 302-305 lb.range right now, and will need some time to add strength and bulk. Most Gs in this part of the draft are in the same boat. He’s a very different physical specimen than Robert Brewster. This is a much more agile guy.

The Tyron Smith and David Arkin picks strongly suggest the big, sluggo-type O-linemen are out. Jason Garrett wants a more Packers-style offense, with speed and agility at every position.

11:38 — Denver takes SS Quinton Carter. They’ve taken two safeties high. Good idea for an old secondary, but wrong draft to do it?

11:32 — Getting a vibe that the Cowboys may go WR here.


11:29 — The Vikings pick DT Christian Ballard. Three picks between the Cowboys and their next pick.

11:26 — The Redskins get their back, taking Roy Helu Jr.

11:21 — The fays’ first deal, as the Bucs move up to select TE Luke Stocker, one pick after the Cards pick Texas OLB/DE Sam Acho.


11:15 — Cleveland takes USC TE Jordan Cameron.

11:13 — The ever fast-picking Bengals (is there any other team that picks quicker?) take G Clint Boling at pick 101.

11:11 — Butch gets to gush about Da’Norris Searcy, whom the Bills have just picked. Come on Mike Mayock, ask about his other guys.

11:07 — Seattle takes LB K.J. Wright. Enjoying Butch Davis’ comments on the NFL Network. I hope that at some point in the next hour he’s asked about his players, and gets to add his two cents on Bruce Carter.

11:02 — The Panthers start round four with DB Brandon Hogan.


11:00 CT — And we’re back for the final day. Cowboys drop a bit, picking 110th overall here.

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Rafael Vela

Rafael Vela

Started covering Dallas Cowboys @ TheBoys.com in '95 and '96. Two more stops along the way and here I am. Senior Analyst for SportsTalkLine.com
  • Jeff Arrowood

    Butch discussed Carter during the pre-draft coverage. All glowing remarks, of course.

  • fivetwos

    Raf, Butch talked about Carter about an hour ago.

  • Stevenshecht

    they already talked about bruce carter before the hour started. butch spoke highly of carter, but i came in the middle of the discussion.

    • Rafael Vela

      Thanks. Not expecting Butch to dump on any of his guys, but wonder if he added any detail?

      • LT

        Said teams are correct in thinking he’s a 3 down LB and that he works hard. Said he’s fast. But didn’t mention his instincts, which is the 1st thing he mentioned about Mark Herzlich.

      • Jeff Arrowood

        They did underscore Carter’s ability to block punts and kicks

    • Jarhead

      a couple pundits have really talked the pick up. They’re basing it on his, prior to injury, 1st round status.

      Im sure dallas is thinking that the assumption is he will make a full recovery.

      thus they got a guy with 1st round capability in the 2nd.

      not saying im buying it, but some pundits liked the pick.

  • Jimmy Robbo

    I’m still thinking that Rackley was the guy we should have nailed in R3. Seeing our prized choices going off the board quickly here!

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Damn, there goes Ballard…

    • Chris Barnett

      Ahhh that was the guy I have been keeping my eye on…

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Raf, I agree. Kid from ACU is probably our pick… If so and this is really odd, Nick Eatman would have mocked our first four picks perfectly.

    • Rafael Vela

      He’s in the building. That should get your some data if your ears are open.

  • Gbland11

    is butch actually gonna say something negative?

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Who is David Arkin?

    • Jeff Arrowood

      From nfl.com: “Arkin’s an experienced, durable offensive guard prospect with the intelligence, work-ethic and toughness to make it in the league as a reserve and possibly a starter down the line. Improving his overall technique as a pass and run blocker would go a lot way in moving him up a depth chart. Needs to do a better job with his hands, sink his hips more and watch his pad level. Displays good awareness. Has the killer instinct that can’t be taught and we don’t expect him to be afraid of the jump in competition.”

  • Jimmy Robbo

    Hmmm…. Finally a guard… what do you think guys? I’m underwhelmed!

    • Chris Barnett

      So looks like a guy who can backup guard and tackle this year and hopefully start at guard in 1-2 years?

      • Dallas965

        u talking about arena football right

  • Jarhead

    made the gosselin top 100, barely.

    academic all american.

    • Delawarecowboysfan

      Maybe he’ll be intelligent enough to make line calls for Andre Gurode when Kosier leaves in the next two years…

  • Chris Barnett

    He just got some love on ESPN, said he has a nasty streak and should be a good guard in the league

    • Jimmy Robbo

      I hope so. Not a massive reach if in Goose’s top 100 and nfl draft scout has him in 5th (with stock rising). Intelligent, ran a 5.31 at the combine…. we’ll see…..

      • Rafael Vela

        If he made the top 100 a lot of teams had him in the early to mid-4th. He got drafted in his range.

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Any names for the 5th? We’re almost 15 picks away from our 5th…

    • Rafael Vela

      Need to look at names. I’m guessing CB or WR with the 5th round pick.

  • Jarhead

    iggles draft a kicker.

    Hmm, how can we get in touch w/david akers given all this courtroom drama?

  • Jeff Arrowood

    Sands to Cincy, drag

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Pats just took Cannon, I guess they have enough picks where it’d be ok if they missed out…

    • Riktooth

      With 3 offensive selections, I think it’ll probably go to the other side of the ball. If the pattern holds, it’ll be someone athletic from a big program. How about an SEC DB? Is Ahmad Black still available?

      • Delawarecowboysfan

        Black is still available as far as I know…

        • Delawarecowboysfan

          as soon as I post this the Bucs snag him, not sure he would fit the draft mentality though being that every player we’ve drafted are quick and Blacks main draw back was how slow he is..

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    4 picks away. Burton just came off the board, and so did Cannon. Anyone care to take a guess?

    • fivetwos

      Korey Lindsey

    • Jimmy Robbo

      DeMarcus Love gone?

    • Rafael Vela

      I think they may have had their fingers crossed on Burton. Josh Thomas looks like an interesting guy. I need to find the story, but Wes brought him up in one of the very first chats, way back in October or November.

  • Bigs

    Jeron Johnson or Mark Herzlich in 5th

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Josh Thomas CB/ Buffalo

  • Jimmy Robbo

    I’ll take a Thamos and be happy enough

    • Jimmy Robbo

      Thomas, sorry.

  • Moghbelli

    Love the Josh Thomas pick

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Wes Bunting Impression on Josh Thomas: A bit raw in some aspects of the game, but his balance, body control, speed, fluidity and toughness are all traits that will serve him well. I like his upside enough to consider him a potential nickel/dime guy in the NFL.

  • Dallas965

    Reach 4 the stars. Has turned n 2 the star is reaching. All 5 picks reaches. This will go down as 1 of the worst drafts n cowboys history.

    • tonight___you

      I think you’re reaching.

      • Dallas965

        i would trade r draft with any one n r division

        • tonight___you

          Hmm… this is serious then. Immediate action might be needed… What do you say? Pitchforks and torches in front of the stadium at dawn? We could round up the Redskins draft class and demand a swap or the Jerrytron gets it!

          Now that I mention it, that sounds like fun! One-way ride, but… Road trip?

    • AlanTdot

      Grading a draft on the day of the draft is a waste of time and used only for easy content.

      These guys haven’t played a second in the NFL. Wait three years then grade the draft.

  • Moghbelli

    How bout a Tim Barnes in the sixth possibly? I would consider that a succesful draft.

    • Delawarecowboysfan

      I’d be ok with it..

  • Mandmeisterx

    I’d like to see them trade up and grab their choice of FB.

  • Jeff Arrowood

    Mark Herzlich? Lawrence Guy?

    • Delawarecowboysfan

      Evidently Dwayne Harris… wish it was Guy or Barnes.

      • Jeff Arrowood

        Harris (6.4) is a good value in the sixth

        • Delawarecowboysfan

          he will definitely fill a role..

          • Delawarecowboysfan

            Wes has Harris rated 5.7, where’d you get 6.4?

          • Jeff Arrowood

            nfl.com grade

  • Raja

    From NFP – Dwayne Harris – Isn’t a big-time draft pick because he lacks ideal size/speed numbers. But will find a home in the league and could contribute early for an NFL team from the slot/special teams.

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    If anyone is watching the draft on ESPN all I have to say is his gf is hott haha…

  • Jeff Arrowood

    Some very intriguing names falling our way…

    • Delawarecowboysfan

      like who, I went for food and missed like the past half hour of picks…

      • Jeff Arrowood

        Kendrick Burney, Deandre McDaniel, Eric Hagg, Deunta Wllms; Lawrence Guy, Jeremy Beal, Mark Hertzlich; Dan Ziemba, Derrick Locke, Graig Cooper

        • Delawarecowboysfan

          Who took Hynoski?

          • Jeff Arrowood

            Still on the board…

          • Travlr

            It is Sunday and he is still on the board.
            Seems he was over hyped.

  • Jonathanlewis86

    room for a FB on the roster if we have a 3 man RB rotation?

    • Delawarecowboysfan

      Gronkowski has given up his last broken clavical as a Cowboy I believe…

      • Rafael Vela

        LOL. Probably true.

      • Dallas965

        gronkowski will not lose his spot he is better than chapas n every faze of the game

        • iowacowboy

          Yuk; I hope not. Broken clavical aside, I don’t like Gronk.

  • Jonathanlewis86

    pick is in…

  • Jonathanlewis86

    Shaun Chapas -RB? especially one who does not project as H-back? …From NFL.com…Chapas is a gritty football player with a throwback mentality, but he does not have the bulk or athleticism to be a lead blocker in the NFL. Although he flashes the ability to make difficult catches, he is a very raw receiver and will not be able to assume an H-back role at the next level. However, he has a relentless motor and good pop at the point of attack. He also can be effective in short yardage situations on his terrific effort alone. Chapas will likely be a day 3 pick, as he has a great attitude and is a coach’s dream.

    • Rafael Vela

      @Jonathanlewis86

      He’s a FULL-back! I disagree with that NFL.com assessment. He’s a good fullback.

    • Nfl1192

      dude your reading reports from guys who read reports and never watch the player themselves. run the tape he is a punishing blocker who nailed guys in the SEC playing in the league now. Did what was asked, good hands played hurt all last season from the second game. Put on his Jr. tape. he is a Moose and will surprise.

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Moose compararisons on NFLN already..

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Raf, Deon Anderson got cut last year. He’s going to give competition to Gronkowski. Or did we resign Deon?

    • Rafael Vela

      Thanks, fixed it. Can’t type with a phone in one hand and kids yelling at me at the same time.

      Thanks.

  • Moghbelli

    I think the Cowboys had a very solid third day of the draft. In the second they reached a little for Bruce Carter and Murray but I think they plan on using Murray as a Reggie Bush type. I had no idea the guy had something like 60 catches in a single season. Anyway very solid rounds 4 through 7.

    • iowacowboy

      Have you seen the Murray videos? I remember him running over the Horns a few times. He has that Jerry Rice type football speed, in that he just seems to be faster than anyone trying to tackle him.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BSLENIIHHMKDS7AVUBYYYJACIM Blue Eyed Devil

    I like that they went fullback.

    But I have to say I’m really flummoxed they picked a fullback that isn’t a punnisher, is raw as a reciever, and has an injury history over Henry Hynoski.

    But they didn’t hesitate one second to get that pick in. They seemed extremely certain he was their guy.

  • Daledoe

    If Carter turns out to be what he was projected to be before the knee injury and Arkin steps up to be a player then we had a great draft. If you look at the Colt board for the first three rounds it is the mirror image of position picks that I envisioned for the Cowboys. I question a couple of the picks but I do believe that the scouts and coaches spend considerably more time evaluating talent than I do. With the age of our inside linebackers if Carter and Lee step up we will be good at that position.

  • Jeff Arrowood

    “The length of the supplemental list after round 7 is the equivalent of Dallas getting an 8th round pick.”

    Hear! Hear! I hope they start signing people as soon as the draft ends. What’s the rule?

    • Delawarecowboysfan

      UDFA’s can’t be signed, not sure what the rule is with the drafted players. I would assume they can’t be signed considering we can’t sign or cut any of our current roster…

      • Jeff Arrowood

        I thought I heard something about a window of opportunity to sign UDFAs, immediately following the draft; I probably misunderstood.

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    I’d like Herzlich with our Crayton pick. He may never play a down as a linebacker, but the guy would have great heart, leadership, and could be a decent special teams player…

  • Dallas965

    7 picks 3 coming off knee surgery. and another one hurt so much his middle name should b ouch.

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Stephen Jones smokin a big cigar on the cowboys war room camera, must be pretty happy with the selections of the day..

  • Delawarecowboysfan

    Bill Nagy isn’t even rated.. on Wes’ site or NFL.com hmmm

  • T.

    Wisconsin’s coach didn’t even have that much to say about him. Did he even start for the team? It sounds like he was a backup at multiple positions.

    • Rafael Vela

      He was a backup on that team. Sounds like he injured a foot and played multiple positions while coming back this season. A late-round developmental guy, and likely one who was picked off inside information on the Wisconsin staff.

      This has precedent. Rod Martin, the Super Bowl 15 MVP for the Raiders, was a backup at USC. John Madden told the story that their scouts were talking to the Trojans staff about him and figured he was better than a lot of starters on other teams.

      Sounds like a supplemental pick C to challenge Phil Costa.

      • Dallas965

        i do not like a guy who was not good enuff 2 start n college

        • Stevelyons1

          Tom Brady

        • iowacowboy

          Wisconsin had great talent at the oline – across the board that program is producing tough blue collar butt kicking linemen

          • MadMick

            Don’t worry; Area Code 969 never worked in any front office; he (or she?) is just a mildly amusing buffoon who hates the tedium of typing out “in” or “to.” Which really drives home the notion that whoever this is can only be an executive that makes the big bucks and not some hairbrain with the intellect of Quinthy Carther.

  • Moghbelli

    The best thing I get out of this draft is the fact that the Cowboys did not select a Safety. Meaning they will surely be going after one in free agency. My preference would be Weddle, Huff, and Mikell in that order.

    • Dallas965

      weddle most likely will stay with SD. huff was benched by ryan i doubt he wants him. i like mikell because he will want 2 stick it 2 the eagles